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Rumor: Gemini 4 Carbon checkpoint beats Argon

A leaker says the Gemini 4 Carbon checkpoint outperforms Argon but is unimpressive next to Opus 5.5, alongside takes on several other rumored models.

Token Gremlin
@TokenGremlinArchived 10 days agoOriginally posted 2026.10.23
Token Gremlin @TokenGremlinOriginally posted 2026.10.23
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Four interesting updates: - "Kibitz" (rumored to be Kimi K3.1) is an absolute BEAST at everything related to design. It reminds me a lot of Opus 5.5 and GPT-6 Astra at the same time. (Distillation?) - The Gemini 4 Carbon checkpoint is better than Argon, but honestly, it's not all that impressive compared to Opus 5.5. - "Kalmia" (rumored to be Qwen 4) is absolutely insane when it comes to design, Three.js, and similar tasks. - The checkpoint believed to be Fable 5.5 also seems much better than before, but it's nowhere near as far ahead of Opus 5.5 as people might expect. In other words, Chinese models have broken through the Fable 5 barrier. They're now just as good, while being ASTRONOMICALLY cheaper. As for Fable 5.5, I think its biggest challenge won't be beating the GPTs. It'll be outperforming its predecessor, Opus 5.5, by such a huge margin that it actually justifies the price. And honestly, I don't think it'll pull that off.

x.com/tokengremlin/status/2113348170558374174Archived 2026.10.23 09:53